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My Political Platform

On this special day where our clocks change, I would like to remind everyone of my political platform.

I'm not really for much, but I'm against a lot. I'm...
  • ...anti-DST
  • ...anti-time zone
  • ...anti-histamine

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meep
Oct. 30th, 2005 02:43 pm (UTC)
Huzzah!

madkawa
Oct. 30th, 2005 03:26 pm (UTC)
Here here! Well at least for the lunkheaded idea of time changes. Bah!
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drmellow
Oct. 30th, 2005 11:09 pm (UTC)
Nononononono!!! GMT all the way!

All GMT, All The Time!

If you want, you can call it UTC or Zulu Time, but when the new regime is established, it will be the one time to rule them all.
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drmellow
Oct. 31st, 2005 12:41 pm (UTC)
With all of this anti-GMT talk, you are risking your security when the new regime is established. I will give you some longitude (see, "latitude" would be more idiomatically correct, but I'm making a geographical pun. and beating it to death.) due to your physical proximity to the location that now defines GMT, but my patience only extends but so far.
(Anonymous)
Oct. 31st, 2005 04:52 am (UTC)
I agree, time changes are so annoying!

Sarah
sarahintampa.com
eagle243
Oct. 31st, 2005 12:02 pm (UTC)
Why are you anti-TZ? I get anti-DST and anti-hst...

Are you pro-"@INT"?
drmellow
Oct. 31st, 2005 12:37 pm (UTC)
When I say that I will be installing software at 0200, that is currently not enough information to know what time I'll be installing software. Do I mean GMT+5? -5? +7? DST? DT? Too many opportunities for confusion.

With the elimination of time zones, this confusion will also be eliminated.

What is "@INT"?
eagle243
Oct. 31st, 2005 02:32 pm (UTC)
"@INT" is the name Swatch gave to their no-zone Internet Time. The 24-hour day was divided into 1000 equal-size units, denoted as @000 to @999. Since you're anti-TZ, I'm surprised you haven't heard of it and don't use it. ;)

Sure, "0200" is not enough to know exactly when you mean. You need to specify a known global time, such as GMT or @INT, or specify an offset relative to a known global time. I don't see that as a big deal, but I like time zones in that "8am local time in Charlotte" is relatively the same as "8am local time in London."

If, on the other hand, we were to do away with time zones, and "8am in Charlotte" became "2am" (in Charlotte) just because we got rid of time zones and everyone switched to GMT, I think it would be pointless to try to tell time.
drmellow
Oct. 31st, 2005 02:56 pm (UTC)
@INT sounds interesting, but I distrust Swatch.

I think that without time zones, we would manage to adapt and be able to tell time just fine.
eagle243
Oct. 31st, 2005 02:57 pm (UTC)
Only if you don't travel out of your local area. When I'm in Charlotte, I eat breakfast at 8am. When I go to London or Paris, I eat breakfast at 8am. Were we to do away with timezones, I would have to get used to eating breakfast at 8am in Charlotte, and 3am in London, and 2am in Paris. I think that's more complicated than time zones.

What's with you and Swatch?
drmellow
Oct. 31st, 2005 04:03 pm (UTC)
Just like you adjust to jet-lag now, you'd adjust to different times for eating when you travel. The advantages of a no-timezone society will outweigh the few inconveniences.

I'm just wary or Swatch, that's all.
eagle243
Oct. 31st, 2005 04:09 pm (UTC)
Interesting. I have owned Swatches for longer than a decade, and have found them to be very dependable timepieces for the price.

Of course, I'd prefer to own a Rolex, but for now the poor-man's Swiss watch is good enough. ;)
eagle243
Oct. 31st, 2005 05:03 pm (UTC)
And yes, you adjust to jetlag now, but that is just the adjustment from "8am Charlotte local time" to "2am London local time." You adjust your body so that you begin to go to bed at 10pm London local time, and to eat breakfast at 8am London local time. You do the same things at the same time every day.

It seems to me that what you propose is much more difficult. If you usually eat breakfast in Charlotte at 8am and were to travel from Charlotte to Cape Town, how would you know whether to eat breakfast at midnight, 1am, 2am, 3am, or some other time? How would you know when to get up? It would be much more difficult to shift your thinking to "OK, now I get up at 1am, eat breakfast at 2am, and lunch at 8am" than it would to merely adjust to a different zone.

I am totally with you on the DST thing tho. ;)
drmellow
Oct. 31st, 2005 05:18 pm (UTC)
BTW, when the time zones go away, so does AM/PM. It's all 24-hour format all the time.
eagle243
Oct. 31st, 2005 05:19 pm (UTC)
Doesn't matter. Substitute "0200" for 2am, "0300" for 3am, et cetera. ;)
drmellow
Oct. 31st, 2005 09:17 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah, I know. I was just clarifying the implementation a bit.
christtrekker
Nov. 3rd, 2005 09:22 pm (UTC)
I remember reading about "internet time" about 5 years ago or so. Swatch's implementation is based on Biel, Switzerland's meridian instead of Greenwich, but otherwise is a pretty "normal" decimal time. The base meridian is arbitrary anyway, but why not go with the de facto standard?
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